Monday, December 3, 2012

White White Knights and Asian Alpha Males

This will be the first in my Into the Manosphere series. After lauding my "fifteen years in the Far East, in a still functionally normal society, and being married a non-Westerner," I said, "I might be able to offer some wisdom from the East for my Western brothers." I meant that half-jokingly, as I do most things, but I'll begin not so much with any advice but some observations from the late '90s when I was still single.

Many white guys who end up in Asia experience going from "zero to hero" the moment they land on the Asian landmass. Many of them are rather pathetic white knights who see themselves as on a mission to save Asian women from Asian men. When they have success, and they do, they think they've got game, and sit around bars congratulating themselves.

They are, rather, the beneficiaries of several lucky coincidences, one of them being that the average white guy looks more like Matt Damon than the average Asian guy. [Jang Dong-gun probably gives Asian guys a similar boost in the many countries, but not America, where he has legions of female fans. Similarly, white guys here in the US might see Kobe Tai, who is not that attractive and never was, in the rare Asian girl he comes across at a bar.] Another lucky coincidence, it was explained to me that Asian girls, at least in the country I was in, sought out foreign devils because they could experiment with them sexually and, since the white guy was most likely outside of their tight social circles, not have her reputation damaged. [A girl's reputation still matters in the East, or at least did when I lived there.]

These WWKs, invariably liberals, then go on to concoct pathetic theories of cultural, if not outright racial, superiority over their Asian hosts to account for their success with local women. They ignore population figures that clearly indicate Asian men have been the most successful in propagating their kind. "The Great Progenitor" alone, after all, "left 16 million direct male descendants, 800,000 times more than the average man of his day." In at least one Asian country, the current pop culture trendsetter, the "cold city man" (차도남), the aloof alpha, is the current male archetype. Asian countries still boast functionally normal societies in which men are men and women are women. They have nothing to learn from us in this regard and do so to their own detriment.

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Blogger Mark D. said...

Don't have any commentary on your post -- my wife is of Asian & Pacific Islander descent but she is an all-American girl (growing up on Guam, which is part of the good-old USA). But I would caution you on going the Roissy route on your blog. Really, the game-theory stuff is just tired, based not on authentic human interaction but on manipulation to make up for the deficits in manly virtue that are prevalent in our society. I'm not saying that beta-ness is the way to go, but the Roissy path isn't either. Balanced masculinity is the way to go.


Mark in Spokane

December 3, 2012 at 11:53 PM  
Blogger Iosue Andreas Sartorius said...

I felt that way, too, when I first ventured into the 'sphere, and you are right that anything which violates moral theology is to be avoided. But we ignore biology at our own peril.

I have found game to work in my married life. The only thing that I have found to work better are prayers to the Blessed Virgin. When the missus's feminine irrationality goes over the top, the sensitive guy thing that we were all indoctrinated with fails miserably.

December 4, 2012 at 6:51 AM  
Blogger pandora said...

Still love checking in on you - always something that catches my eye. Thanks.

Have you read this? If so does it mesh with your experience?

Korea: The Impossible Country

December 4, 2012 at 8:09 AM  
Blogger Mark D. said...

The minute you say "game theory" you are buying in to Roissy's worldview. I am not saying that biology isn't important (it is!) -- and I specifically said that beta-ness isn't the way forward. But the idea of "game" isn't the way forward, either.

Balanced masculinity -- there's where you could make a huge contribution to the topic of gender interaction.

December 4, 2012 at 12:39 PM  
Blogger papabear said...

"Game theory" is just a label and it is not specific to Roissy alone. It is used by him, but by others as well, who have different worldviews and morals.

December 4, 2012 at 7:19 PM  
Blogger Iosue Andreas Sartorius said...

Yes. Game-theory is just an attempt to explain things. A cad can apply it to immoral purposes; a suitor or husband can use apply it to make for a more rewarding and ultimately harmonious relationship.

December 4, 2012 at 9:38 PM  
Blogger papabear said...

There's a (another? haha) discussion of "Game" in the combox for Dalrock's latest.

December 5, 2012 at 5:43 PM  

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